Guide to the National Historic Preservation Program Oral Histories,
1986-1987

Collection Number: 4327

Division of Rare and Manuscript Collections
Cornell University Library

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Compiled by:
Staff
Date completed:
1987
EAD encoding:
Peter Martinez, May 2004
Maria Keating

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DESCRIPTIVE SUMMARY

Title:
National Historic Preservation Program oral histories, 1986-1987.
Collection Number:
4327
Creator:
James A. Glass
Quantity:
168 tape recordings.
Forms of Material:
Cassette tapes.
Repository:
Division of Rare and Manuscript Collections, Cornell University Library
Abstract:
Interviews (59) by James A. Glass on the subject of the development of the National Historic Preservation Program between 1957 and 1980. Interviewees include Lawrence E. Aten, Edwin C. Bearss, Martha M. Bigelow, Tersh Boasberg, J.O. Brew, Helen D. Bullock, John A. Burns, James H. Charleton, S. Allen Chambers, Jr., Ernest Allen Connally, Chris T. Delaporte, Eric N. DeLony, Antoinette F. Downing, Carl Feiss, Robert G. Ferris, John Fowler, Russell W. Fridley, Robert R. Garvey, Jr., George B. Hartzog, Jr., Gary L. Hume, Casey and Lucille Ireland, H. Ward Jandl, George A. Karas, Russell V. Keune, Thomas F. King, Bennie C. Keel, Lawson B. Knott, Jr., James M. Lambe, Ben Levy, Nellie L. Longworth, Elizabeth A. Lyon, James C. Massey, John D. McDermott, Lee McElvain, Terry B. Morton, William Penn Mott, Jr., William J. Murtagh, Lee H. Nelson, Loretta Neumann, Stephen D. Newman, Sally G. Oldham, Mary Carolyn Pitts, Constance Werner Ramirez, Dwight F. Rettie, Jerry L. Rogers, Douglas H. Scovill, Horace J. Sheely, Jr., Carol D. Shull, Ann Webster Smith, Larry E. Tise, Merle Wells, Thomas B. Williams, Frederick C. Williamson, and Alfred B. Wolfe.
Language:
Collection material in English

BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE

Oral history tapes were compiled as research for a Ph.D. dissertation.
COLLECTION DESCRIPTION

Interviews (59) by James A. Glass on the subject of the development of the National Historic Preservation Program between 1957 and 1980. Interviewees include Lawrence E. Aten, Edwin C. Bearss, Martha M. Bigelow, Tersh Boasberg, J.O. Brew, Helen D. Bullock, John A. Burns, James H. Charleton, S. Allen Chambers, Jr., Ernest Allen Connally, Chris T. Delaporte, Eric N. DeLony, Antoinette F. Downing, Carl Feiss, Robert G. Ferris, John Fowler, Russell W. Fridley, Robert R. Garvey, Jr., George B. Hartzog, Jr., Gary L. Hume, Casey and Lucille Ireland, H. Ward Jandl, George A. Karas, Russell V. Keune, Thomas F. King, Bennie C. Keel, Lawson B. Knott, Jr., James M. Lambe, Ben Levy, Nellie L. Longworth, Elizabeth A. Lyon, James C. Massey, John D. McDermott, Lee McElvain, Terry B. Morton, William Penn Mott, Jr., William J. Murtagh, Lee H. Nelson, Loretta Neumann, Stephen D. Newman, Sally G. Oldham, Mary Carolyn Pitts, Constance Werner Ramirez, Dwight F. Rettie, Jerry L. Rogers, Douglas H. Scovill, Horace J. Sheely, Jr., Carol D. Shull, Ann Webster Smith, Larry E. Tise, Merle Wells, Thomas B. Williams, Frederick C. Williamson, and Alfred B. Wolfe.
Subjects include the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966, the National Park Service, the National Trust for Historic Preservation, the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, the National Conference of State Historic Preservation Officers, the Office of Archeology and Historic Preservation of the National Park Service, the Heritage Conservation and Recreation Service, Preservation Action, Inc., the U.S. Conference of Mayors' Special Committee on Historic Preservation (Rains Committee), the Tax Reform Act of 1976, Executive Order 11593 of 1971, and the 1980 amendments to the National Historic Preservation Act.
SUBJECTS

Names:
Glass, James A.
Aten, Lawrence E.
Bearss, Edwin C.
Bigelow, Martha M.
Boasberg, Tersh.
Brew, J. O.
Bullock, Helen Claire Duprey, 1904-
Burns, John A.
Chambers, S. Allen.
Charleton, James H.
Connally, Ernest Allen
Delaporte, Chris T.
DeLony, Eric.
Downing, Antoinette Forrester.
Feiss, Carl.
Ferris, Robert G.
Fowler, John.
Fridley, Russell W.
Garvey, Robert R.
Hartzog, George B.
Hume, Gary L.
Ireland, Casey.
Ireland, Lucille.
Jandl, H. Ward.
Karas, George A.
Keel, Bennie C., 1934-
Keune, Russell V.
King, Thomas F.
Knott, Lawson B.
Lambe, James M.
Levy, Ben.
Longworth, Nellie L.
Lyon, Elizabeth A.
Massey, James C.
McDermott, John D.
McElvain, Lee.
Morton, Terry B.
Mott, William Penn.
Murtagh, William J.
Nelson, Lee H.
Neumann, Loretta.
Newman, Stephen D.
Oldham, Sally G.
Pitts, Mary Carolyn.
Ramirez, Constance Werner.
Rettie, Dwight Fay, 1930-
Rogers, Jerry L.
Scoville, Douglas H.
Sheely, Horace J.,
Shull, Carol D.
Smith, Ann Webster.
Tise, Larry E.
Wells, Merle W.
Williams, Thomas B.
Williamson, Frederick B.
Wolfe, Albert B.
National Conference of State Historic Preservation Officers.
National Historic Preservation Program
National Trust for Historic Preservation in the United States.
Preservation Action.
United States Conference of Mayors.Special Committee on Historic Preservation.
United States.National Park Service.
United States.Advisory Council on Historic Preservation.
United States.Office of Archeology and Historic Preservation.
United States.Heritage Conservation and Recreation Service.
United States.National Historic Preservation Act of 1966.
United States.National Historic Preservation Act Amendments of 1980.
United States.Tax Reform Act of 1976.

Subjects:
Historic buildings--United States--Conservation and restoration.
Historic sites--Law and legislation--United States.
Architecture--United States--Conservation and restoration.
INFORMATION FOR USERS

Access Restrictions:
Individual interviews may have specific restrictions.
Ben Levy interview:closed until permission is granted to open.
William J. Murtagh interview:closed during lifetime of interviewee except with his written permission.
Restrictions on use:
Tersh Boasberg interview:citations and quotations require written permission until 2004 or during lifetime of interviewee.
Helen D. Bullock interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Russell V. Keune interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Nellie L. Longworth interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Elizabeth A. Lyon interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Lee McElvain interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Terry B. Morton interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
William Penn Mott, Jr. interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Sally G. Oldham interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Constance Werner Ramirez interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Carol D. Shull interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Ann Webster Smith interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Larry E. Tise interview:citations and quotations require written permission during lifetime of interviewee.
Thomas B. Williams interview:citations and quotation require written permission during lifetime of interview.
Albert B. Wolfe interview: citations and quotations require written permission of interviewee.
Cite As:
National Historic Preservation Program oral histories, #4327. Division of Rare and Manuscript Collections, Cornell University Library.
CONTAINER LIST

Description
Container
Series I. Transcripts and Computer Disks
Carl Feiss
Box 1
NTHP Trustee, 1959-1971; Consultant, Rains Committee, 1965
Robert R. Garvey, Jr.
 Box 1
Executive Director, Old Salem, Inc., 1951-1960; Executive Director, NTHP, 1960-1967;Executive Secretary/Director, ACHP, 1967-1986
George B. Hartzog, Jr.
Box 1
Director, National Park Service (NPS), 1964-1972
Jerry L. Rogers
 Box 1
Fourth Chief, OAHP, 1967-1967; Deputy Associate Director, HCRS, 1979-1981
Russell W. Fridley
Box 1
Director, Minnesota Historical Society, 1955-1986
Robert M. Utley
Box 1
Acting Chief, OAHP, 1967-1967; Second Chief, OAHP, 1972-1973; Assistant Director, NPS, 1973-1976; Deputy Executive Director, Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP), 1976-1980
Russell V. Keune
Box 1
Assitant Keeper, National Register, 1967-1969; Senior Vice President, National Trust for Historic Preservation (NTHP), 1970-1983
Merle W. Wells
 Box 1
Ernest Allen Connally
Box 1
First Chief, Office of Archeology and Historic Preservation (OAHP) NPS, 1967-1972; Associate Director, NPS, HCRS, 1972-1979
S. Allen Chambers, Jr.
Box 1
Architectural Historian, National Register, 1969-1972; Architectural Historian, HABS, 1972-1986
Casey and Lucille Ireland
Box 1
Minority Staff Member, Housing Subcommittee, US House of Representatives, 1965-1966; Staff Person to Rains Committee, 1965 (Casey); Member, ACHP,1970-1979 (Lucille)
William J. Murtagh
Box 1
Keeper, National Register of Historic Places, OAHP, 1967-1979
William Penn Mott, Jr.
Box 1
California SHPO, 1967-1974
Series II. Tapes Awaiting Transcription
George B. Hartzog, Jr.
 Box 2 Tape #1-2
Director, National Park Service (NPS), 1964-1972
This interview has been digitized.
Chris Therral Delaporte
 Box 2 Tape #3-4
Director, Heritage Conservation and Recreation Service (HCRS), 1978-1981
Ernest Allen Connally
 Box 2 Tape #5-11
First Chief, Office of Archeology and Historic Preservation (OAHP) NPS, 1967-1972; Associate Director, NPS, HCRS, 1972-1979
Robert M. Utley
 Box 2 Tape #12-14
Acting Chief, OAHP, 1967-1967; Second Chief, OAHP, 1972-1973; Assistant Director, NPS, 1973-1976; Deputy Executive Director, Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP), 1976-1980
Jerry L. Rogers
 Box 2 Tape #15-22
Fourth Chief, OAHP, 1967-1967; Deputy Associate Director, HCRS, 1979-1981
This interview has been digitized.
William J. Murtagh
 Box 2 Tape #23-26
Keeper, National Register of Historic Places, OAHP, 1967-1979
Russell V. Keune
 Box 2 Tape #27-29
Assitant Keeper, National Register, 1967-1969; Senior Vice President, National Trust for Historic Preservation (NTHP), 1970-1983
Carol D. Shull
 Box 2 Tape #30-31
Historian, National Register, 1970-1979
Stephen D. Newman
 Box 2 Tape #32-33
Chief, Grants Administration Division, OAHP, 1977-1980
W. Brown Morton, III
 Box 2 Tape #34-35
Chief, Technical Preservation Services (TPS) Division, OAHP, 1975-1978
Lee H. Nelson
 Box 2 Tape #36-40
Restoration Authority, NPS, 1960-1979; Chief, TPS Division, OAHP, 1978-1983
Gary L. Hume
 Box 2 Tape #41-42
Head, Historic Preservation SEction Texas Historical Commission (SHPO), 1967-1974; Chief, Grants Review Branch, TPS, late 1970s
H. Ward Jandl
 Box 2 Tape #43-45
ARchitectural Historian, National Register, 1974-1977; Co-Author, Tax Reform Act of 1976 Regulations, TPS, late 1970s
Sally G. Oldham
 Box 2 Tape #46-47
Architectural Historian, National Register, 1976-1982; Co-Author, Tax Reform Act of 1976 Regulations, late 1970s
Edwin C. Bearss
 Box 2 Tape #48-50
Chief Historian, NPS
Horace J. Sheely, Jr.
 Box 2 Tape #51-53
Chief, Historic Sites Survey Branch, OAHP, 1967-1980
Carolyn Pitts
 Box 2 Tape #54-55
Architectural Historian, Historic Sites Survey, OAHP, 1974-1979
Robert G. Ferris
 Box 2 Tape #56-58
Editor, National Historic Lnadmark (NHL) Book Series, OAHP, 1964-1979
James H. Charleton
 Box 2 Tape #59-61
Historian, NHL Book Series, OAHP, late 1960s-1979
James C. Massey
 Box 3 Tape #62-63
Chief, Historic American Bulidings Survey (HABS), NPS, 1962-1972
John Poppeliers
 Box 3 Tape #64-65
Chief, HABS Division, OAHP, 1972-1980
S. Allen Chambers, Jr.
 Box 3 Tape #66-67
Architectural Historian, National Register, 1969-1972; Architectural Historian, HABS, 1972-1986
Kenneth Anderson
 Box 3 Tape #68-69
Architect, HABS, 1972-1980
John Burns
 Box 3 Tape #70-71
Architect, HABS, 1972-1986
Eric DeLony
 Box 3 Tape #72-73
Principal Architect, Historic American Engineering Report (HAER), OAHP, 1973-1986
Bennie C. Keel
 Box 3 Tape #74-76
Chief, Southeast Field Office, Interagency Archeological Services (IAS) Division, OAHP, 1976-1979; Chief, IAS Division, 1979-1983
Lawrence E. Aten
 Box 3 Tape #77-80
Executive Order 11593 Consultant, NPS, 1972-1976; Deputy Chief, IAS Division, OAHP, 1976-1979; Chief, State Plans and Grants Division, HCRS, 1979-1982
Douglas H. Scoville
 Box 3 Tape #81-82
Chief, Southwest Archeological Center, NPS, 1969-1974
Thomas F. King
 Box 3 Tape #83-84
Archeological Consultant to NPS, 1970-1979
James M. Lambe
 Box 3 Tape #85
Legislative Counsel, NPS, 1962-1986
Robert R. Garvey, Jr.
 Box 3 Tape #86-95
Executive Director, Old Salem, Inc., 1951-1960; Executive Director, NTHP, 1960-1967; Executive Secretary/Director, ACHP, 1967-1986
John D. McDermott
 Box 3 Tape #96-97
Historian, Historic Sites Survey, NPS, 1960-1969; Professional Staff Member, ACHP, 1969=1986
John M. Fowler
 Box 3 Tape #98-100
General Counsel, ACHP, 1972-1989
Benjamin Levy
 Box 3 Tape #101-104
Professional Staff Member, ACHP, 1970-1973; Historian, Historic Sites Survey, OAHP, 1973-1977
Charles E. Lee
 Box 3 Tape #105-107
South Carolina State Historic Preservation Officer (SHPO), 1967-1986
William Penn Mott, Jr.
 Box 3 Tape #108
California SHPO, 1967-1974
Martha M. Bigelow
 Box 3 Tape #109-111
Michigan SHPO, 1974-1986
Robert E. Stipe
 Box 3 Tape #112-115
North Carolina SHPO, 1974-1975; Preservation Law and Planning Authority; NTHP Trustee, 1971-1980
Elizabeth A. Lyon
 Box 3 Tape #116-117
Georgia SHPO, 1976-1986
Ann Webster Smith
 Box 3 Tape #118-121
Staff Member, US Department of Transportation, 1960-1979; Professional Staff Member, ACHP, mid 1970s; Deputy SHPO, New York State, late 1970s to early 1980s
Helen Claire Duprey Bullock
 Box 3 Tape #122-124
Editor, NTHP, 1940-1972; Co-Author and Editor, With Heritage So Rich, 1965
Carl Feiss
 Box 3 Tape #125-129
NTHP Trustee, 1959-1971; Consultant, Rains Committee, 1965
Link to partial transcript.
See also the Carl L. Feiss papers, #2635
Casey and Lucille Ireland
 Box 3 Tape #130-131
Minority Staff Member, Housing Subcommittee, US House of Representatives, 1965-1966; Staff Person to Rains Committee, 1965 (Casey); Member, ACHP, 1970-1979 (Lucille)
Terry B. Morton
 Box 3 Tape #132-133
Editor, Publisher, NTHP, 1956-1982
Lawson B. Knott, Jr.
 Box 3 Tape #134-136
Administrator, General Services Administration, 1964-1969; Executive Vice President, NTHP, 1974-1977; NTHP Trustee, 1969-1974, 1977-1984
Dwight Fay Rettie
 Box 4 Tape #137-138
Administrator, Historic Preservation Grants Program, Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), 1967-1972
George A. Karas
 Box 4 Tape #139-140
Environmental Official, HUD, 1960-1986
This interview has been digitized.
Constance Werner Ramirez
 Box 4 Tape #141-143
Preservation Planner, HUD, 1960-1969; Historic Preservation Officer, Department of the Army, 1976-1986
Loretta Neumann
 Box 4 Tape #144-145
Professional Staff Member, Subcommittee on Public Lands, House of Representatives, 1970-1986
Lee McElvain
 Box 4 Tape #146
General Counsel, Committe on Interior anad Insular Affairs, House of Representatives, early 1960s - 1986
Thomas B. Williams
 Box 4 Tape #147-148
Professional Staff Member, Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, US Senate, 1976-1986
Tersh Boasberg
 Box 4 Tape #149-150
Co-Founder, Preservation Action
Nellie L. Longsworth
 Box 4 Tape #151-152
President, Preservation Action, 1975-1986
Russell W. Fridley
 Box 4 Tape #157-158
Director, Minnesota Historical Society, 1955-1986
Larry E. Tise
 Box 4 Tape #159-161
Director, Department of Archives and History, North Carolina, 1975-1980; Executive Director, Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, 1980-1986
Merle W. Wells
 Box 4 Tape #162-163
Frederick C. Williamson
 Box 4 Tape #164-166
State Historic Preservation Officer, Rhode Island, 1969-1986
Antoinette Forrester Downing
 Box 4 Tape #167-168
Chairman, Rhode Island Historical Preservation Commission, 1968-1986
J. O. Brew
 Box 4 Tape #153-154
Chairman, Committee for the Recovery of Archeological Remains, 1946-1979; Member, Lee-Bree-Connally Committee, NPS, 1966-1967. Transcribed
Albert B. Wolfe
 Box 4 Tape #155-156
Preservation Law Authority; Member, Massachusetts Historical Commission (state review board), 1963-1974; NTHP Trustee, 1971-1980. Transcribed